Post by Paul Z (127 John Gibson) on Nov 23, 2015 13:04:00 GMT -5
A new pool won't happen. The builder has met their obligation. Any new pool will be a special assessment on the community and I highly doubt there will be support for that. If I sound testy, I am. I think it's always easy to complain and want more. I bite my tongue about a lot of it.
Does the developer have a responsibility with the pool and are not meeting their obligation? Yes. But, hopefully, we only have to deal with that for one more year. Then it will be OUR job to maintain.
Norlands - I concur. Working with the developer/HOA to resolve these issues is correct way with resolving.
As for how busy the pool is - everyone needs to step back and be honest. Opening weekend, maybe the fourth of july, and couple of other days the pool is busy. After 4-5 years, it's never busy after the middle of July and this year, well before then.
We can say it was the quality of the upkeep, and maybe that was part of it. But many Saturdays and Sundays I was up there and very few people were there - and certainly no where near where it was three years ago. The truth is, once the novelty wears off the usage changes.
I talked Elm Street and did a lot of research BEFORE they built the pool because of the concerns. This pool's size is adequate for the community size. No pool they could build would meet the demand of the 280 homes using it at once. I encourage anyone who disagrees with the size to do some of the research I did, call pool company's too - find out what size is 'adequate' for the community. I think you'll find we are on the small, but meeting specs side. (BTW, they did increase the size initially after rumblings from the community - that's where the 'L' part of the pool came from. I posted about this previously.
I do not have a love for the developer and no stake in this particular pool. I really don't. HOWEVER - I do think we need to reasonable. We complain about the size of the pool and I hear complain about our HOA dues. A bigger pool means bigger dues for bigger upkeep.
The truth is the only time the pool is over crowded is when there is an event. I, personally, think we should eliminate the community hosting parties for outside events (e.g. birthday parties) because with the 20-30 people that come with the parties, the pool then does get over crowded. But, I realize I'm probably in the minority and isn't a big issue considering how under-utilized it is most of the time.
So how do we resolve:
1) Talking to the developer and HOA and keeping their feet to the fire. I'm working on that to make sure we are set for 2016.
2) Discuss the possibility of longer pool hours. I know that I always hear the pool isn't open late enough. We pay for one life guard and one shift. I believe now its 11-7. But if we paid for a shift-and-a-half and did 10-8 (or even 9) we would spread the use out much more significantly. The pool has lights. That would be an $8.00 increase in monthly HOA fees. Is that worth it?
3) Posting and working to have parties at off-peak times.
And again, on pool size, it won't happen...but tabling that until the community is done seems to make sense. I'd rather problem solve realistic solutions than start the whole thread of pool size complaints again.
I'm just one voice and may be the minority - but just another position to consider.
Does the developer have a responsibility with the pool and are not meeting their obligation? Yes. But, hopefully, we only have to deal with that for one more year. Then it will be OUR job to maintain.
Norlands - I concur. Working with the developer/HOA to resolve these issues is correct way with resolving.
As for how busy the pool is - everyone needs to step back and be honest. Opening weekend, maybe the fourth of july, and couple of other days the pool is busy. After 4-5 years, it's never busy after the middle of July and this year, well before then.
We can say it was the quality of the upkeep, and maybe that was part of it. But many Saturdays and Sundays I was up there and very few people were there - and certainly no where near where it was three years ago. The truth is, once the novelty wears off the usage changes.
I talked Elm Street and did a lot of research BEFORE they built the pool because of the concerns. This pool's size is adequate for the community size. No pool they could build would meet the demand of the 280 homes using it at once. I encourage anyone who disagrees with the size to do some of the research I did, call pool company's too - find out what size is 'adequate' for the community. I think you'll find we are on the small, but meeting specs side. (BTW, they did increase the size initially after rumblings from the community - that's where the 'L' part of the pool came from. I posted about this previously.
I do not have a love for the developer and no stake in this particular pool. I really don't. HOWEVER - I do think we need to reasonable. We complain about the size of the pool and I hear complain about our HOA dues. A bigger pool means bigger dues for bigger upkeep.
The truth is the only time the pool is over crowded is when there is an event. I, personally, think we should eliminate the community hosting parties for outside events (e.g. birthday parties) because with the 20-30 people that come with the parties, the pool then does get over crowded. But, I realize I'm probably in the minority and isn't a big issue considering how under-utilized it is most of the time.
So how do we resolve:
1) Talking to the developer and HOA and keeping their feet to the fire. I'm working on that to make sure we are set for 2016.
2) Discuss the possibility of longer pool hours. I know that I always hear the pool isn't open late enough. We pay for one life guard and one shift. I believe now its 11-7. But if we paid for a shift-and-a-half and did 10-8 (or even 9) we would spread the use out much more significantly. The pool has lights. That would be an $8.00 increase in monthly HOA fees. Is that worth it?
3) Posting and working to have parties at off-peak times.
And again, on pool size, it won't happen...but tabling that until the community is done seems to make sense. I'd rather problem solve realistic solutions than start the whole thread of pool size complaints again.
I'm just one voice and may be the minority - but just another position to consider.